file Tendonitis in the elbow

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Hi guys,

I've recently developed an annoying bout of tendonitis in the biceps tendon of my casting arm. I'm getting a fair amount of pain just above the elbow on the tendon which pulls my forearm up. The tendon affected is the one I use to stop the rod's forward progress and to initiate the backcast. I need help urgently because it's really affecting my drinking ... :oops:  ;)

I believe this is from casting my 9wt in the park in sessions lasting up to an hour (obviously too much for my 46 year old arms . :oops: ). Now I'll have to stop casting for a while (perhaps three or four weeks) and gradually work my way back up with short sessions, starting with the 5wt and progressing to the 9wt later (again, in short sessions).

My questions are:

[list:1l44qxp5]* Has anybody here had to go through this before? If so, how long did it take to get back into the full swing of it?
* Do you guys think this might have been brought on by a flaw in my technique? Am I doing something wrong to get tendonitis in this location? If so, I'll seek proper lessons before I resume practicing. (My searches of the forum only showed tendonitis of the forearm brought on by small grip diameters.)[/list:u:1l44qxp5]

Any advice would be much appreciated. In the meantime, since I'm a tragic adict to this activity, I'll learn to cast left-handed in the next week or so. Actually, I already get better loops on the left hand than when casting with the right, but I can't haul with the right hand to save myself.:oops:

Cheers,
Graeme

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Scottie replied: Re: Tendonitis in the elbow

It hurts and it will take some time to get better.
If you keep up the practice with heavy rods and lines it will get worse and really bugger up your fishing <!-- s:cry: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_cry.gif" alt=":cry:" title="Crying or Very Sad" /><!-- s:cry: -->

Take a little time off and start back with a lighter rod; maybe a 2 or 3wt.
Don;'t practice for so long
Cut back on the one handed late night web surfing <!-- s:whatever --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/whatever.gif" alt=":whatever" title="whatever" /><!-- s:whatever -->

Acupuncture worked well on my elbow/s as did massage, heat treatment and rest.
Light line/rod fishing and less driving all helped.

You would be amazed that driving windy roads can do more damage to your elbow than flyfishing <!-- s:o --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_surprised.gif" alt=":o" title="Surprised" /><!-- s:o -->


Good luck <!-- s8-) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_cool.gif" alt="8-)" title="Cool" /><!-- s8-) -->

Cheers; Scottie

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Morsie replied: Re: Tendonitis in the elbow

I would definitely look at altering your technique. It sounds like you have a pretty front on traditional casting style. Study some clips of Lefty's casting style on Youtube, far more body movement than just arm, the whole body is much stronger that the arm, learn to share the load.

And rest it........

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Castingsport replied: Re: Tendonitis in the elbow

Hi Graeme,

I had it mid last year, had few cortisone jabs to get rid of the swelling so check with your Doctor. After that, follow the advice of both Morsie and Scottie. Rest is best.

When I had it I wore one of those arm bands. Not sure if it was mind over matter but I thought it eased the symptoms whist recovering.

Good luck with it,

John

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leighm replied: Re: Tendonitis in the elbow

Yes. I've suffered from this problem, but with me it was mainly caused by cricket rather than fishing. The only thing I found that really worked was rest. That meant a longish break from cricket and casting. If you try to work through the pain or resume activity when you are only 95% better it just gets worse and worse. Talk to your GP about various treatments that might speed up recovery but I found Ibuprofen gel very good for reducing pain and inflammation.
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hagar replied: Tendonitis in the elbow

A fly fishing GP maybe?

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mph replied: Re: Tendonitis in the elbow

G/day Graham
I will try and post a link to a federation of fly fishers article on elbow pain.
The article was written by Dr Gary Eaton an MCI instructor from the states he has researched a lot of fly casting related injuries.

http://www.fedflyfishers.org/Portals/0/ ... G.LOOP.PDF

The title of the article is Adaptive Fly Casting Instruction Techniques for Physical Limitations.
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BarryJ replied: Re: Tendonitis in the elbow

A few years back, I had a similar problem (really put the dampner on a trip to NZ) and it took a month or so to fully recover. I posted on here at the time and Peter Gibson was kind enough to email me a .pdf file which outlined the cause of the problem and suggested several simple excercises to help reduce the pain and prevent a re-ocurrence in the future (so far so good). PM me your email address and I will send you the article.
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Morsie replied: Re: Tendonitis in the elbow

in the biceps tendon of my casting arm. I'm getting a fair amount of pain just above the elbow on the tendon which pulls my forearm up.


I'm reading this and I'm not sure but that doesn't sound like a tennis or golf elbow to me, these seem to occur on the outside and inside of the elbow and are associated with wrist movement and sideways movements. By 'inside' I think it refers to the side against your body and 'outside' is on the outside. From what I'm reading this is in the crook of your elbow, the lifting muscle and tendon??? See a physio before you get too thirsty.

I had a frozen shoulder problem last year I ended up getting cortisone injections into the shoulder and a specialist sports physio gave me some GREAT exercises. Its supposed to take a year to clear without treatment, it was gone in a month so it really paid dividends.

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Hirdy replied: Re: Tendonitis in the elbow

Thanks for the replies and the obvious concern for my drinking capacity … ;) Peter Gibson contacted me and sent the relevant pdfs on for me to read (thanks again Peter.)

Morsie, you're correct in that it is not tennis or golfers' elbow, but the tendon which flexes the elbow and allows me to sip from a full pint when the tendonitis is not present. Alas, I'm restricted to drinking left-handed now (or drink shots instead. I'll shoot the first bloke who suggests I start using a straw! <!-- s:twisted: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_twisted.gif" alt=":twisted:" title="Twisted Evil" /><!-- s:twisted: --> ), and I'll just have wear the stains of embarrassment when I spill it on the way up. :mrgreen:

I visited the physio this afternoon. I got very lucky with my choice of physiotherapist: he is a fly fisherman. s:up We discussed how I might have injured it, and it seems I have indeed been over-doing it in my practice sessions in the park across the road from my house. Apparently, an hour each day with a 9wt is too much. <!-- s:whatever --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/whatever.gif" alt=":whatever" title="whatever" /><!-- s:whatever --> In my efforts to get tight loops on the for-cast by snapping the stop and by pulling the rod back hard to initiate the back-cast, I've placed too much strain on the bicep tendon and introduced micro-tears in the transition zone between muscle fibres and tendon. He told me that if I was going to get tendonitis, this was the best place to get it. The treatment is simple because the tears are accessible and respond well to the deep tissue manipulations. Had the injury occurred at the other end of the tendon (where it attaches to the forearm), the lay-off for recovery would have been much longer.

As it is, the treatment is not too onerous. Rest from any load bearing activity on the right arm (i.e. anything that hurts it) for about three weeks, ice packs once or twice a day, regular ibuprofen over the next week or so (i.e. 2 tablets, 3 times a day) and some extremely painful deep tissue massage which extends all the way into the wallet.

He has told me that I may practice casting with the left hand using the 5wt if I want, but the lay-off won't be so long that I'll get withdrawals from fishing (obviously, he doesn't[i:mibt0z9j] really[/i:mibt0z9j] fly fish if he thinks three weeks off won't induce withdrawal symptoms in a fisherman … :) ) I'm seeing this as a good opportunity to get my right-handed haul working properly so I can fish in wind from any direction. s:up

Once I get back from this, I should be doing no more than 15 minutes a session, and I should work up from the 5wt to the 9wt, instead of going at it like a GT at bonefish. :oops:

Cheers,
Graeme

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