Flies & Fly Tying Craigs Nightime

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  • #561067

    Phoenix Bird
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    Tied up a few of these and found that they would not swim upright and turned in the water.I would appreciate some help to solve this problem.

    #616959

    freestone
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    Jim, without seeing the errant fly, I suggest you try “keeling” the fly by starting your tie off with about 4 wraps of medium size lead wire on the upper part of the hook bend just below where the tag will be tied in (so that the lead wraps are below the hook shank. After securing the wraps with thread you can coat the lead wraps with a thin coating of UV resin or liquis super glue.

    #616962

    Peter Gibson
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    Clancy post a pic of one of the flies so we can see how you are tying them.

    #616963

    Phoenix Bird
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    Hi Peter,I wonder if the beard is supposed to act as a keel or perhaps the wing is not aligned

    #616966

    Peter Gibson
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    Not sure why that would go belly-up. I tie a lot of them and (as far as I know, in the dark) they swim OK. But I tie them slightly differently…I tie a feather flat over back first and then a couple each side to make a tent shape. And I tie a single jungle cock over top rather than as cheeks. I’m not sure this would make any difference but might be worth a try. I also use lead wire on some (I tie with different thread colour so I know which are the weighted ones)…I wind a few times along the shank, and I would have thought that would make them more top-heavy if anything, but never had that problem. I notice your fly has a much longer tail than I would tie…maybe that’s making it roll over…could try shortening that to a tag, like a Red Tag length.

    #616968

    freestone
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    Jim, your tie looks good to me – similar to what I used to tie and they work! There are some great hooks out now like Ahrex trout preditor and Firehole 811 sticks, which are more of a stinger style heavier wire hook and really well suited for keeling flies. They also have better hook up rates and are stronger than the older more classic hooks. Only other thing I can think of is to use seals fur as a body if you are not already using it.

    #617034

    micmac3701
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    I suspect the problem is the single JC nail on the side rather on the top. I think this will tend to turn/spin the fly on retrieve.

    #617035

    kcfly
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    Simple swim one of a day time and have a look to see how it swims
    I swim all my flies to make shore they swim right
    ken culgin

    #617156

    alhughes
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    What feathers is everyone using?

    #617157

    oldpiscator
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    Pukeko/Moorhen.

    #617197

    alhughes
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    Graeme I should rephrase the question, where does everyone get their pukeko feathers

    #617199

    Peter Gibson
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    I found this one asleep in my back yard. A strong breeze came up and several feathers came loose. I gathered them up, gently woke the bird and it walked back to its nest.

    #617208

    oldpiscator
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    Fairly frequent roadside casualty.

    #783224

    Ken
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    What hook pattern are you using?

    If using ones like the far right, they always roll over for me too.

    #783284

    Greywulff
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    Simply the best wet fly design of all time.  I would reckon that 95% of my biggest fish have been caught on this fly.

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